[Maxima] Compare Maxima and Macsyma
Richard Fateman
fateman at cs.berkeley.edu
Thu Jan 12 15:33:03 CST 2006
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The comparison is not meaningful then.
if the ranking is
BEST
WORST
Macsyma X Y Z .............
Then if the ranking is
Macsyma Maxima ........
You don't know if the total order is
Macsyma X Y Z Maxima
or
Macsyma Maxima X Y Z
or something else.
If you tell us what other systems you are comparing it to (X, Y, Z), and
what parts of a CAS you need to use, (maybe more about your project), it
might be possible to either
(a) explain why Maxima is a good choice
or
(b) choose another system if Maxima is not as good.
For example, if all you are doing is very long integer arithmetic, you
could use any number of systems. Some are faster than others, but
they should all get the right answers. You could then choose Maxima
because it gets the job done.
RJf
Nguyen Huong wrote:
> I need the comparison since I want to choose the CAS Maxima for my
> project and I need to explain why I choose it among a large number
> CAS(s). And I want to show that the capabalities of Maxima is good
> enough for my work since it is based on Macsyma - a CAS was rated as
> one of the best and most mature CAS(s).
>
> Richard Fateman <fateman at cs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps you should explain why you need to do this comparison!
> (Or why you need help doing it..)
>
>
> You can look at the many pages of online documentation of Macsyma
> at http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~fateman/macsyma/
> and the many pages of onlin e Maxima documentation at sourceforge.
>
> See if there are differences in the areas of interest to you, or to
> the person who is asking you to do this task.
>
> Both Macsyma and Maxima are (now) written in Common Lisp.
>
> The main advantage as well as the main difference between
> them is this: you can legally get a free copy of Maxima.
>
> In terms of capabilities, Macsyma is generally but not
> entirely a superset of Maxima.
>
>
>
>
> Nguyen Huong wrote:
>
>> No, I can not. I want to find some documents in which someone
>> compares these two CAS(s) but I did not find any except that
>> Macsyma is written in Lisp and Maxima is written in Common Lisp.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Nguyen
>>
>> Richard Fateman <fateman at cs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>> The questions you ask are not easy to answer.
>> However, the answers are not relevant to you
>> unless you can get a licensed copy of Macsyma. Can you?
>> RJF
>>
>>
>> ----- Ori ginal Message -----
>> From: Nguyen Huong <mailto:hiperfume at yahoo.com>
>> To: maxima at math.utexas.edu <mailto:maxima at math.utexas.edu>
>> Sent: Wedne sday, January 11, 2006 10:37 PM
>> Subject: [Maxima] Compare Maxima and Macsyma
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I want to work with Maxima now. I know that Maxima is
>> based on DOE Macsyma in 1982. And I consider two questions:
>>
>> 1) What is the differences between Maxima and Macsyma ?
>>
>> 2)What is any advantage of Maxima comparing to Macsyma?
>>
>> If anybody know any document about that or if y ou have
>> any experience can share, please let me know. Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Nguyen,
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<tt>The comparison is not meaningful then. <br>
if the ranking is<br>
<br>
BEST
WORST<br>
Macsyma X Y Z .............<br>
<br>
Then if the ranking is<br>
<br>
Macsyma Maxima ........ <br>
<br>
You don't know if the total order is<br>
<br>
Macsyma X Y Z Maxima<br>
<br>
or<br>
Macsyma Maxima X Y Z <br>
<br>
or something else.<br>
<br>
If you tell us what other systems you are comparing it to (X, Y, Z),
and<br>
what parts of a CAS you need to use, (maybe more about your project), it<br>
might be possible to either<br>
(a) explain why Maxima is a good choice<br>
or<br>
(b) choose another system if Maxima is not as good.<br>
<br>
For example, if all you are doing is very long integer arithmetic, you<br>
could use any number of systems. Some are faster than others, but<br>
they should all get the right answers. You could then choose Maxima<br>
because it gets the job done.<br>
<br>
RJf<br>
<br>
</tt><br>
Nguyen Huong wrote:<br>
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cite="mid20060112203049.73480.qmail at web60323.mail.yahoo.com">
<div id="RTEContent">I need the comparison since I want to choose the
CAS Maxima for my project and I need to explain why I choose it among a
large number CAS(s). And I want to show that the capabalities of Maxima
is good enough for my work since it is based on Macsyma - a CAS was
rated as one of the best and most mature CAS(s).<br>
<br>
<b><i>Richard Fateman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fateman at cs.berkeley.edu"><fateman at cs.berkeley.edu></a></i></b> wrote:
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<tt><br>
Perhaps you should explain why you need to do this comparison!<br>
(Or why you need help doing it..) <br>
<br>
<br>
</tt><tt>You can look at the many pages of online documentation of
Macsyma<br>
at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/%7Efateman/macsyma/">http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~fateman/macsyma/</a><br>
and the many pages of onlin e Maxima documentation at sourceforge.<br>
<br>
See if there are differences in the areas of interest to you, or to<br>
the person who is asking you to do this task.<br>
<br>
Both Macsyma and Maxima are (now) written in Common Lisp.<br>
<br>
The main advantage as well as the main difference between<br>
them is this: you can legally get a free copy of Maxima.<br>
<br>
In terms of capabilities, Macsyma is generally but not<br>
entirely a superset of Maxima. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</tt><br>
Nguyen Huong wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid20060112193011.96882.qmail at web60318.mail.yahoo.com">
<div id="RTEContent">No, I can not. I want to find some documents
in which someone compares these two CAS(s) but I did not find any
except that Macsyma is written in Lisp and Maxima is written in Common
Lisp.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Nguyen<br>
<br>
<b><i>Richard Fateman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fateman at cs.berkeley.edu"><fateman at cs.berkeley.edu></a></i></b>
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<div><font face="Courier New" size="2">The questions you ask
are not easy to answer.</font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New" size="2">However, the answers are
not relevant to you </font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New" size="2">unless you can get a
licensed copy of Macsyma. Can you?</font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New" size="2">RJF</font></div>
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<div id="RTEContent"> Hello<br>
<br>
I want to work with Maxima now. I know that Maxima is based on DOE
Macsyma in 1982. And I consider two questions:<br>
<br>
1) What is the differences between Maxima and Macsyma ?<br>
<br>
2)What is any advantage of Maxima comparing to Macsyma?<br>
<br>
If anybody know any document about that or if y ou have any experience
can share, please let me know. Thanks a lot.<br>
<br>
Nguyen,<br>
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