How do I turn off the 'pretty printing' used by save? E.g. code saved by save looks like (#1# $Y (#2=(MSETQ) $DEPTH 10) (#2# $TYPE (#3=(MQUOTE) $FLOAT))) and I guess load uses a reader macro to expand #1 etc. I would like to see the expanded lisp form. Leo -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.