[Maxima] maxima speed is important and an appeal to developers
Manuel Pedrinero rossetil
pdx7l1 at yahoo.es
Sat May 5 16:56:55 CDT 2012
In some tests sbcl speed is equal or better than Julia, and computation speed is a big appeal for developers, for example Cython and panda developers consider important the speed of the code. Below some posts and code.
--- El sáb, 5/5/12, Manuel Pedrinero rossetil <pdx7l1 at yahoo.es> escribió:
De: Manuel Pedrinero rossetil <pdx7l1 at yahoo.es>
Asunto: Re: Maxima Lapack is very slow: 7 seconds versus 0.002 seconds in Julia.
Para: "Raymond Toy" <toy.raymond at gmail.com>
Fecha: sábado, 5 de mayo, 2012 23:47
Maxima can also be used numerically. For example in some benchmarks sbcl speed is equal or better than Julia:
Example:
1.- sbcl has better speed than julia at lisp processing:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/julia-dev/Fo91y_mSZVI
2.- Speed is important, for example Cython people trying to join with Julia. Cython existence is because its speed, since pure python is not enough.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/julia-dev/YftOOEfcwrk
3.- Developers of libraries, (like panda = similar to dataframes in R ported to python)
should jump into another language if it gives them enough speed.
see http://wesmckinney.com/blog/?p=475
below code for the test in sbcl. Time is about 0.037 seconds, similar to julia
code: (defvar a1) (defvar a2) (defvar a3)
(setq a1 (make-array (expt 10 7) :element-type 'double-float :adjustable nil :fill-pointer nil :initial-element 0d0 :displaced-to nil)
a2 (make-array (expt 10 7) :element-type 'double-float :adjustable nil :fill-pointer nil :initial-element 0d0 :displaced-to nil)
a3 nil)
(loop for i below (expt 10 7) do
(setf (aref a1 i) (random 10d0)
(aref a2 i) (random 10d0)))
(defun haz()
(declare (optimize (speed 3) (safety 0) (compilation-speed 0) (space 0))
(type (simple-array double-float) a1 a2))
(let ((res 0d0))
(loop for x double-float across a1
for y
double-float across a2 do
(setf
res (the double-float (+ res (the double-float (* x y))))))))
--- El sáb, 5/5/12, Raymond Toy <toy.raymond at gmail.com> escribió:
De: Raymond Toy <toy.raymond at gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: Maxima Lapack is very slow: 7 seconds versus 0.002 seconds in Julia.
Para: "Manuel Pedrinero rossetil" <pdx7l1 at yahoo.es>
Fecha: sábado, 5 de mayo, 2012 23:15
On 5/5/12 9:00 AM, Manuel Pedrinero rossetil wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> Thanks for the information about cffi, and for your work in matlisp.
>
> There are some projects to improve the port of sbcl to windows. Since
I understand that ccl works very well on windows, so why wait for an
improved port of sbcl?
> gcl lacks ffi, sbcl seems a good candidate once the port is mature.
> (good speed and cffi).
>
> Perhaps the efforts in linear algebra of Rosseti, Tamas, Raymond,
> Liliam (gsl), Luis Oliveira. (cffi) and others could be ported to maxima
> or some interface via cffi between Julia and maxima could be very
> interesting. There also some Lispers that use Lisp and R (for example
> C. Rhodes) . Improving the numeric capabilities of maxima could appeal
> to more people and communities.
Let us not lose sight of what maxima is. It is a computer algebra
system, not a numerical evaluation system. There are many of those
already.
Ray
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